一个进来的人不得不回的帖子

Kathy

"Never, never give up" is also one of my favourite quotes and I have to remind myself from time to time not to give up--sounds easy but it's REALLY HARD--you just don't know how helpless I am sometimes...................................

绿罗裙

　　看了Kathy的帖子后，不知为何，在心疼的同时还有一份肃然起敬！是的，我一直很相信快乐是肤浅的，只有痛苦才是深刻的——原则上我是一个悲观主义者，但是正如某一个人（忘了是谁了）所说的，我也乐意做一个整体悲观局部乐观的主义者。所以，我总觉得人在承受苦难时显得最伟大——此时他的灵魂绽放出的光芒最灿烂最耀眼！
　　
　　周国平说，幸福和苦难都属于灵魂。“幸福是生命意义得到实现的鲜明感觉。一个人在苦难中也可以感觉到生命意义的实现乃至最高的实现，因此困难与幸福未必是互相排斥的。但是，在更多的情况下，人们在苦难中感觉到的却是生命意义的受挫。我相信，即使是这样，只要没有被苦难彻底击败，苦难仍会深化一个人对于生命意义的认识的。”——我想，在这方面，苏东坡的遭遇与表现可谓是一个典型的例子。

　　我又想，我们之所以有极大的痛苦，也许是因为我们的灵魂曾经体验到极大的幸福吧。Kathy，如果美好的往事依然在影响着你的情绪，就听听罗大佑的《恋曲1980》吧，用“没有什么会是永恒的”的观点来安慰自己。相信生活中爱情的宠儿是不多的。

[ 本帖最后由 绿罗裙 于 2006-1-9 08:15 AM 编辑 ]

Kathy

Dear 绿罗裙,
谢谢你--是发自心底的感激.
我会好的,只是我觉得有点太累了,想休息一下.....
脑子有点乱了........

祝你平安,喜乐!

Kathy

woiyezi

So late for your wonderful dialogue(for many reasons, I only online in my working time), many thinks to Kat、绿罗裙 、Chales. I have no such profound thinking, what occupy my brain now is to earn more money, that can buy a bigger car, a bigger house, just so so, too vulgar.

To Kat:  I agree partly with what you described about Mr.  Jiang.  I had gone to his hometown "Xi kou"  and visited  the grave of Mr. Jiang's mother. what I admire him most is that he is a dutiful son.

To 绿罗裙: 我在争取“整体乐观局部悲观”

To Charles: If I were Charles Z. Song, I will recover from depression as soon as possible, just for my parents.

Bell

Charlie Z. Song

My Dad, who i have been admiring MOST, now is 85 year old!!! i just came to China to celebrate his birthday. can you believe that? he still wants to play pingpong with me!
His old "friend"----Hao, Bocui, once was a premier of Taiwan, came to New York to attend the funeral of Song, Meiling, i called my DAD: i will go to New York to meet Mr. Hao to ask him: "do you stlll remember in 1948 in North-Eastern China, you were fighting with Lin, Biao, you had a vice---LIAN ZHANG (captain)? ......................
My DAD said: " no, no, no. Pointless to meet him..."

woiyezi

That is very interesting: Charles'  father was fighting with Lin Biao who  I admire most, and Kat admired Jiang Jieshi who was beated by Lin Biao.  I do not know who admire Lao Mao that  destoryed my hero.

Charlie Z. Song

Hao, Bocun, once was a superior of my DAD, but, at that time, he was only "Yi Zhang

郝 伯 村 是 营 长 ， 我 爸 是 他 那 个 营 的 副 连 长， 应 该 是 1948年 的 辽 沈 战 役 。 他 们 都 是 小 人 物 ， 他 们 的 头 是 卫 立 huang， 林 彪 是 黄 埔 4期 ， 我 爸 是 19 期 。 郝 是 陆 军 大 学 毕 业 ， 好 象 不 是 黄 埔 的 。 另 外 ， 我 的 二 姨 夫 是 黄 埔 2 期 的，  haha， 比 林 彪 还 厉 害 。

Charlie Z. Song

woiyezi

You have such good background of family, but the President of Huang Pu(Mr. Jiang) was defeated by his student(Lin Biao) also, it seems some ironical.

For Lao Mao and Mr. Zhou, I also have no comments. but from the fate of Lin Biao, you can see that many true facts are not known by us now.

[ 本帖最后由 woiyezi 于 2006-1-10 01:57 PM 编辑 ]

Charlie Z. Song

In my oponion, Jiang, Jieshi, was not defeated by Mao and Lin, but himself! actually NOBODY CAN DEFEAT HIM EXCEPT HIMSELF.
during anti-japanese war, the communist party had only few troops, meantime Jiang had a very powerful troops, right? but why Jiang fled to Tanwai while Lao Mao entered Beijing?
a saying goes: "JIANG XIONG XIONG YI WO" that is to say, if the head is folish, then his men are also not smart.

woiyezi

"NOBODY CAN DEFEAT HIM EXCEPT HIMSELF" - absolutely RIGHT, not only for Mr. Jiang, but also for all of us.

In my oponion, besides the reason of military affairs, the reason of politics is also important. Lao Mao knew the society, lots of poor people strived for communist party, Mao assured to provide land and  property to them, only a dream, but they won, so they can say anything.

Kathy

I have a tremendous respect for him. But I still have reservation about certain aspects of what he had done during that disaster —the so-called Cultural Revolution is for one…and some others…

"NOBODY CAN DEFEAT HIM EXCEPT HIMSELF"--I can't agree with you more there...

Charlie Z. Song

我见青山多妩媚，料青山见我应如是.

woiyezi

Politics is too sensitive, maybe we can not know it in our all life.

So,  I want to change the topic: please give the sentences said by the people you admire most.

Let's begin:

天马行空 独往独来  克己复礼 （by  Lin Biao）

Charlie Z. Song

横 空 出 世 ， 成 双 成 对 ， 只 要 我 愿 意 ， 有 什 么 不 可 以 ？