心灵的港湾 发表于 12-11-6 07:55:50

有时候,必要的道理还是要讲的,凡事都顺从是不可能的,毕竟他们不是智力有问题,可以工作,有自己的思想和追求,在他们情绪稳定的时候,还是要帮助他们慢慢的成长! 13# wardragon207

心灵的港湾 发表于 12-11-6 07:56:15

谢谢姐姐的理解,压力确实非常的,尤其是心理压力! 14# 心岸

忧心 发表于 12-11-6 09:05:36

精神病人最重要的是治疗,吃药,吃药,吃药,在药物的帮助下恢复可以交流了,才能谈其它。家属重要的职责也是帮助他治疗。没有治疗,所有的功夫都是徒劳。家属如果不帮助治疗,那不仅违背道德,也触犯法律,可现在的法律规定似乎得取得精神病人同意才能送医院,这不是胡说八道吗?愿意治疗还是严重精神病患者吗?一个没有起码交流能力的人,甚至还有攻击性,是个隐性炸弹,如果不治疗,随时都可能引爆,谁来保护家属的安全?谁来保护其他人的安全?我觉得精神病人可怕的地方就是不能及时治疗,而且会随时复发,所以,家属难,难就难在怎么及时治疗和预防复发上。

忧心 发表于 12-11-6 09:07:57

不好意思,像绕口令,归根结底,还是吃药治疗,这是根本,至于心理治疗和规劝那得等到他恢复了理智才能起点作用,只有药物才是救命稻草,如果药物不好使,那是不对症,或者个体差异导致的

心灵的港湾 发表于 12-11-6 09:22:35

确实是这个问题,必须足量足疗程的治疗才可以!
其实,生活中与他们相处,还得动动脑子,毕竟不是正常人,想法有些怪异,呵呵 19# 忧心

新生的雪儿 发表于 12-11-6 09:48:46

Coping Tips for Siblings and Adult Children of Persons with Mental Illness

If you find it difficult to come to terms with your sibling's or parent's mental illness, there are many others who share your difficulty. Most siblings and adult children of people with psychiatric disorders find that mental illness in a brother, sister, or parent is a tragic event that changes everyone's life in many basic ways. Strange, unpredictable behaviors in a loved one can be devastating, and your anxiety can be high as you struggle with each episode of illness and worry about the future. It seems impossible at first, but most siblings and adult children find that over time they do gain the knowledge and skills to cope with mental illness effectively. They do have strengths they never knew they had, and they can meet situations they never even anticipated.

A good start in learning to cope is to find out as much as possible about mental illness, both by reading and talking with other families. NAMI has books, pamphlets, fact sheets, and tapes available about different illnesses, treatments, and issues you may have to deal with, and you can join one of the 1,200 NAMI affiliate groups  throughout the nation. (For other resources and contact information about your state and local NAMI affiliates, call the NAMI HelpLine at 1-800/950-6264.)

The following are some things to remember that should help you as you learn to live with mental illness in your family:

You cannot cure a mental disorder for a parent or sibling.
No one is to blame for the illness.
Mental disorders affect more than the person who is ill.
Despite your best efforts, your loved one's symptoms may get worse, or they may improve.
If you feel extreme resentment, you are giving too much.
It is as hard for the parent or sibling to accept the disorder as it is for other family members.
Acceptance of the disorder by all concerned may be helpful, but it is not necessary.
A delusion has little or nothing to do with reality, so it needs no discussion.
Separate the person from the disorder.
It is not OK for you to be neglected. You have emotional needs and wants, too.
The illness of a family member is nothing to be ashamed of. The reality is that you will likely encounter stigma from an apprehensive public.
You may have to revise your expectations of the ill person.
You may have to renegotiate your emotional relationship with the ill person.
Acknowledge the remarkable courage your sibling or parents may show when dealing with a mental disorder.
Generally, those closest in sibling order and gender become emotionally enmeshed while those further out become estranged.
Grief issues for siblings are about what you had and lost. For adult children, they are about what you never had.
After denial, sadness, and anger comes acceptance. The addition of understanding yields compassion.
It is absurd to believe you may correct a biological illness such as diabetes, schizophrenia, or bipolar disorder with talk, although addressing social complications may be helpful.
Symptoms may change over time while the underlying disorder remains.
You should request the diagnosis and its explanation from professionals.
Mental health professionals have varied degrees of competence.
You have a right to ensure your personal safety.
Strange behavior is a symptom of the disorder. Don't take it personally.
Don't be afraid to ask your sibling or parent if he or she is thinking about hurting him- or herself. Suicide is real.
Don't shoulder the whole responsibility for your mentally disordered relative yourself.
You are not a paid professional caseworker. Your role is to be a sibling or child, not a parent or caseworker.
The needs of the ill person do not necessarily always come first.
If you can't care for yourself, you can't care for another.
It is important to have boundaries and to set clear limits.
Just because a person has limited capabilities doesn't mean that you expect nothing of him or her.
It is natural to experience many and confusing emotions such as grief, guilt, fear, anger, sadness, hurt, confusion, and more. You, not the ill person, are responsible for your own feelings.
Inability to talk about your feelings may leave you stuck or "frozen."
You are not alone. Sharing your thoughts and feelings in a support group has been helpful and enlightening for many.
Eventually you may see the silver lining in the storm clouds: your own increased awareness, sensitivity, receptivity, compassion, and maturity. You may become less judgmental and self-centered, a better person.
 
谁能翻译下,谢谢!

心灵的港湾 发表于 12-11-6 10:07:53

应对精神病患者的兄弟姐妹和成年子女的技巧
如果你觉得很难来与你的兄弟姐妹或父母的心理疾病,有很多人分享你的困难。大多数兄弟姐妹和成年子女有精神疾病的人发现,精神疾病的兄弟,姐妹,或父母是一个悲剧性的事件,在许多基本方面,改变每个人的生活。奇怪的是,在不可预测的行为所爱的人可能是毁灭性的,你的焦虑感高,你挣扎每个情节的疾病和对未来的担忧。这似乎是不可能在第一,但大多数兄弟姐妹和成年子女发现,随着时间的推移,他们获得的知识和技能,以应付患有精神疾病有效。他们也有他们从来不知道他们的优势,他们能够满足情况下,他们甚至从来没有预期。

在学习应对是一个良好的开端,以找出尽可能多,尽可能多地了解精神疾病,通过阅读和讨论与其他家庭。 NAMI有书籍,小册子,实况报道,对不同的疾病,治疗和处理的问题,您可能可用磁带,你可以加入一个在全国各地的1200 NAMI子公司组。 (对于其他资源有关国家和地方的NAMI附属公司和联系人信息,请拨打热线,1-800/950-6264的NAMI)。

以下是一些要记住的事情,应该帮助你,你要学会在你的家庭生活与精神疾病:

你不能治愈的父母或兄弟姐妹的心理障碍。
没有人是怪的疾病。
精神障碍影响以上的人生病的是谁。
尽管尽了最大的努力,你所爱的人的症状可能会变得更糟,或者他们可能会提高。
如果你感到极度的怨恨,你给太多了。
这是难以接受的障碍,因为它是其他家庭成员的父母或兄弟姐妹。
接受由所有有关的紊乱可能会有所帮助,但它不是必需的。
一个妄想与现实有很少或没有,所以它不需要讨论。
从无序分开的人。
这是不正常的,你可以忽略不计。你有情感的需求和欲望,也。
这种疾病的家庭成员是没有什么可羞愧的。现实情况是,你可能会遇到的忧虑市民的耻辱。
您可能需要修改您的期望的病患者。
您可能需要重新谈判你的情绪与患者的关系。
确认了非凡的勇气,你的兄弟姐妹或父母患有精神障碍时,可能会出现。
一般情况下,那些最亲密的同级次序和性别成为情感纠缠而进一出疏远。
你有什么,失去了兄弟姐妹的悲伤问题。对于成年子女,他们是你从未有过的。
拒绝后,悲伤和愤怒来接受。另外的理解产量的同情。
这是荒谬的,相信你可以纠正生物的疾病,如糖尿病,精神分裂症或躁郁症谈话,虽然可能会有所帮助解决社会的并发症。
症状可能会改变基础疾病,而随着时间的推移。
你应该请专业人士的诊断和解释。
有不同程度的心理卫生专业人员的能力。
你有权利以确保您的人身安全。
奇怪的行为是一种症状的疾病。不要把它。
不要害怕问你,如果他或她是想伤害他或她的兄弟姐妹或父母。自杀是真实的。
精神错乱的相对自己不要承担全部责任。
你是不是付费的专业个案工作。你的角色是一个兄弟姐妹或子女,而不是父母或个案工作。
病患者的需求不一定永远是第一位的。
如果你不能照顾自己,你不能照顾另一个。
重要的是有边界,并设置明确的界限。
仅仅因为一个人的能力有限,并不意味着你不指望什么对他或她。
这是很自然体验到许多令人困惑的情绪,如悲伤,内疚,恐惧,愤怒,悲伤,伤害,混乱和更多。你不生病的人,是为自己的感情负责。
无法谈论你的感受可能让你被卡住或“冻结”。
你并不孤单。分享您的想法和感受,在一个支持小组,对许多人来说有所帮助和启发。
最终,你可能会看到的一线希望风暴的阴云:你自己的认识的提高,敏感性,感受性,同情心,和成熟。你可能会判断和以自我为中心,一个更好的人

心灵的港湾 发表于 12-11-6 10:08:28

雪儿, 不好意思,太多了,我不能一一帮你翻译,我用软件给你翻译的,可能会不通顺,你大体了解一下吧,等有时间了,我再帮你整理!

新生的雪儿 发表于 12-11-6 10:19:49

http://www.nami.org/template.cfm?section=Education_Training_and_Peer_Support_Center

新生的雪儿 发表于 12-11-6 10:55:09

雪儿, 不好意思,太多了,我不能一一帮你翻译,我用软件给你翻译的,可能会不通顺,你大体了解一下吧,等有时间了,我再帮你整理!
心灵的港湾 发表于 12-11-6 10:08 http://www.sunofus.org/bbs/images/common/back.gif谢谢!

这些我现在能全看懂!包括下面的录像全听懂了!
你翻译了帮助大家!非常感谢啊!
这是从国立卫生院精神病研究所找的,绝对权威资料!

你用什么软件翻的?

心灵的港湾 发表于 12-11-6 11:03:42

谷歌的在线翻译,不是很通顺,我也没空整理,唉,大家凑合着看吧! 25# 新生的雪儿

新生的雪儿 发表于 12-11-6 11:08:12

这就非常好了,只少百分之八九十是对的,大家能明白的!
谢谢!

新生的雪儿 发表于 12-11-6 11:11:56

有时候,必要的道理还是要讲的,凡事都顺从是不可能的,毕竟他们不是智力有问题,可以工作,有自己的思想和追求,在他们情绪稳定的时候,还是要帮助他们慢慢的成长! 13# wardragon207
心灵的港湾 发表于 12-11-6 07:55 http://www.sunofus.org/bbs/images/common/back.gif网上有个12周的家庭帮助的课程,学习如何和精神病人相处。是全英文的!

新生的雪儿 发表于 12-11-6 11:15:53

本帖最后由 新生的雪儿 于 12-11-6 11:18 编辑

18# 忧心 是的,有的时候医生也看不出来.但真有问题!我是多么希望医生或周围的人一眼能看出来,那样我早得到治疗,不致于痛苦一生!

新生的雪儿 发表于 12-11-6 11:19:09

18# 忧心 是的,有的时候医生也看不出来.但真有问题!
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